“Outrage without optimism leads to defeatism, and optimism without outrage gives us incremental progress. We need both!”
Outrage and Optimism is a new podcast dealing with the climate crisis.
In this first episode, Christiana Figueres and Tom Rivett-Carnac have a discussion with David Attenborough about the school strikes, his career, and how we can use outrage to change the world.
“Young people may lack experience but they also have clear sight… We older ones should take notice of what they say. I find it enormously encouraging that that is so, and that they understand the simple dependencies, the simple discoveries of science about our dependence upon the natural world and our place within it.” ~ David Attenborough